Ok, I got my e.o. numbers all mixed up.But I found this instead. Covers a whole bunch of stuff...
So Where Do Anti-Hoarding Laws Come In?
These ideas of anti-hoarding legislation may have stemmed from two areas of confusion:
First is from Executive Orders in place dating back to 1939 which
Clinton has grouped together under one order, EO #12919 released on June
6, 1994. The following EOs all fall under EO#12919: 10995--Federal seizure of all communications media in the US; 10997--Federal seizure of all electric power, fuels, minerals, public and private; 10998--Federal seizure of all food supplies and resources, public and private and all farms and equipment;
10999--Federal seizure of all means of transportation, including cars,
trucks, or vehicles of any kind and total control over all highways,
seaports and water ways; 11000--Federal seizure of American people
for work forces under federal supervision, including the splitting up of
families if the government so desires; 11001--Federal seizure of all health, education and welfare facilities, both public and private; 11002--Empowers the Postmaster General to register every single person in the US 11003--Federal seizure of all airports and aircraft;
11004--Federal seizure of all housing and finances and authority to
establish forced relocation. Authority to designate areas to be
abandoned as "unsafe," establish new locations for populations, relocate
communities, build new housing with public funds; 11005--Seizure of all railroads, inland waterways and storage facilities, both public and private;
11051--Provides FEMA complete authorization to put above orders into
effect in times of increased international tension of economic or
financial crisis (FEMA will be in control incase of "National
Emergency"). These EOs are not aimed at anti-hoarding but
rather at seizure or confiscation of items and facilities "to provide a
state of readiness in these resource areas with respect to all
conditions of national emergency, including attack upon the United
States." You'll find most 'seizure' legislation ends with this phrase.
These Executive Orders don't define what specifically constitutes a
national emergency and maybe this is as it should be. The specifics on
hoarding are left up to the individual states.
What Is FEMA's Role?
EO #11051 is interesting; it authorizes FEMA near-total power in times
of crisis. There's been lots of discussion on the Internet regarding the
excessive control FEMA has been granted and it was pointedly commented
upon in July's world premiere movie release of the "X-Files".
FEMA was created by President Carter under Executive Order #12148. Its
legal authorization is Title 42, United States Code 5121 (42 USC Sec.
5121) called the "Stafford Act." During activation of Executive Orders,
FEMA answers only to the National Security Council which answers only to
the President. Once these powers are invoked, not even Congress can
intervene or countermand them for six months. What Clinton, or
Reagan, or any other president did when writing an EO, was to direct his
Cabinet member(s), in this case FEMA, to take specific action to carry
out the directives of the EO. Where Jimmy Carter had created FEMA by
Esecutive Order in 1979, Robert Safford took it a step futher and pushed
a bill through in 1988 that made it law. This legislation made FEMA a
bonafide department like Justice. Where the EO is critical to the USC
(United States Code) and Title 50, is in interpreting the law how that
department or FEMA, should conduct itself when declaring they will tell
the states, national guard, military forces, or whomever, to confiscate
extra hoarded food or medical supplies or whatever... We must
also consider any PDD (Presidential Decision Directives) Ok, so who will
determine how much food we have in our house - why FEMA of course. And
the amount depends on the need of all...not your needs or my needs...but
the "welfare" of the the needy. Bottom line? Clinton delegated
authority to FEMA to run the show however it sees fit if he declares a
national emergency. Who will determine how much food we can have in our
house? FEMA. And the amount depends on the needs of all...not your needs
or my needs...but the "welfare" of the needy. Many people have
balked about FEMA's extensive authority, but think about it, what other
agency has the manpower to cover and implement aid? As it is, FEMA
still does not have the manpower to control every city all over the US
in times of crisis. Chances are they would only be dispatched to larger
metropolitan areas where more crowd control might be needed. Lots of
people suggest darker reasons for their existence, but this site is only
addressing anti-hoarding legislation, nothing else. EO #11051
covering "economic or financial crisis" certainly would have terrorism
implications as well. An emergency does not have to be defined as
another Hurricane Hugo or massive Midwestern flooding.
 Preppers Are Now Considered To Be Potential Terrorists? - Madtown Preppers 3.26.12.
State Legislation's Role in Anti-Hoarding
The other area where anti-hoarding confusion might have arisen is state
legislation. Most states have chosen to enact their own anti-hoarding
laws. That means some states may not have such laws, others do and not
all are uniform. However, uniformity of state law is something governors
are striving for under the Interstate Compact Agreement. The Compact
Agreements, much like Executive Orders for the president, really don't
require voters' input. They are law if the legislature doesn't object,
much like Congress that has 30 days to object to an EO before it becomes
law.
At times of "declared emergencies", each governor cedes
(gives over) authority of his/her state to the federal government. When a
governor declares it for his state, he becomes the delegated
representative of the federal government according to an Interstate
Compact Agreement. Bottom line, even though federal legislation does not
directly address anti-hoarding, goods can be seized if national
circumstances are felt to warrant it whether or not amounts stored are
deemed excessive in your state's eyes.
How Can I Find The Legislation for My State?
Since these anti-hoarding laws are not federal in nature, one would
need to look at Titles for his/her own state. These statutes should be
located under Public Safety laws or titles. For specific URLs go to
State Legislation Locator. To locate information for your state, look
for laws about:
Blood Typing
Disaster Preparedness
Emergencies
Hoarding
Injections
Martial Law
Militia
National Guard
Public Safety or Public Welfare
State Militia
State Police Force
Hawaii As A Specific Example of Anti-Hoarding
For Hawaii, this information will be found in Title 10 under "Public
Safety". It is located after legislation on militias, state guard
troops, etc. Then you find the jewel... In Hawaii you are considered a
"hoarder" if you have more than one week's provisions on hand BUT you
have to dig to uncover this information. Here is a specific example:
"HAWAII REVISED STATUTES REVISED 1997, Title 10:
(1) Prevention of *hoarding, waste, etc. To the extent necessary to
prevent hoarding, waste, or destruction of materials, supplies,
commodities, accommodations, facilities, and services, to effectuate
equitable distribution thereof, or to establish priorities therein as
the public welfare may require, to investigate, and any other law to the
contrary notwithstanding, to regulate or prohibit, by means of
licensing, rationing, or otherwise, the storage, transportation, use,
possession, maintenance, furnishing, sale, or distribution thereof, and
any business or any transaction related thereto."
Committee Notes? Huh?
In the actual Title document for Hawaii, you will not find the
specifics for what length of time constitutes "hoarding" nor an amount.
Instead, you must look at the committee notes which describes it as the
opinion that one week's supplies per person is considered adequate food
provisions. It is not spelled out what those provisions shall consist of
or how much is considered "adequate" until you get to the committee
notes.
You will probably have to "dig" for the committee notes
as well. Lynn Shaffer, our legislative interpreter, explains committee
notes this way. "When the legislature agrees that a law or statute is
needed to effect certain governmental goals to prohibit or encourage
civilians to respond in a particular way, that statute has attached to
it (you will see it printed in the law books) what is called "committee
notes." The courts, when making a determination of how the statute is to
be interpreted and applied to the case before it, looks to "legislative
intent" or what was recorded in the committee's notes when the bill was
meandering its way through the legislative process."
OK, So If I Hoard, Then What?
Again using Hawaii's Titles as an example, any items in excess of what
legislation has deemed appropriate to store (in Hawaii's case any amount
over 1 week) is subject to forfeiture and may be confiscated, ordered
destroyed or may be redistributed for public use. See exact text below:
"128-28 Forfeitures. The forfeiture of any property unlawfully
possessed, pursuant to paragraph (2) of section 128-8, may be adjudged
upon conviction of the offender found to be unlawfully in possession of
the same, where no person other than the offender is entitled to notice
and hearing with respect to the forfeiture, or the forfeiture may be
enforced by an appropriate civil proceeding brought in the name of the
State. The district courts and circuit courts shall have concurrent
jurisdiction of the civil proceedings. Any property forfeited as
provided in this section may be ordered destroyed, or may be ordered
delivered for public use to such agency as shall be designated by the
governor or the governor's representative, or may be ordered sold,
wholly or partially, for the account of the State. [L 1951, c 268, pt of
2; RL 1955, 359-25; HRS 128- 28; am imp L 1984, c 90, 1]"
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